Sametime Proxy “Loading” Problem

Having recently installed a new Sametime 11 environment on Linux with Sametime Proxy I ran into a problem with the proxy client where it would continually show “loading” when starting a conversation. Awareness of users on other servers worked, type ahead worked, it would open a chat window but just show a looping circle that never ended. Even if I tried talking to myself (usually a good test).

I have been working with HCL for a few days on this and it seemed to point to an issue with Mongodb as they found a failure to connect in the logs. That was odd because Mongo is installed on the same server as the ST Community server and was binding to localhost on, it didn’t appear to have any problems but the chatlogging service couldn’t connect so the Sametime Proxy clients wouldn’t work. It’s worth knowing what I subsequently found out which is that if the chat logging service doesn’t start up correctly, the Sametime clients will continue to work but the Sametime Proxy clients won’t.

Thanks to HCL identifying that the issue was with Mongo, I got it fixed and here are the changes I made.

Wanting Mongo to bind to the fqhn of the machine not localhost – originally I edited /etc/mongo.conf to use bindIpAll to bind all ips and that should have worked but instead I ended up using bindIP to explicitly bind the mongo service to the ip that the fqhn resolved to. That worked but to access the mongo console I had to then type “mongo –host fqhn” .. if I just typed “mongo” I’d get connection refused as it would default to using

Now Mongodb was listening on the right port and hostname I had two other places to change in Sametime so they matched. The sametime.ini MONGO_URI setting and the chatlogging.ini CL_MONGO_HOST setting.

With all of that set I restarted Sametime and the proxy worked fine.

Sametime v11 Meetings

I attended a presentation at Engage on Sametime 11 and the upcoming Sametime 11 Meetings. There has been an enormous amount of work done since v10 was released last year and a good part of that is the removal of WebSphere and DB2 pre-requisites whilst maintaining and expanding on Sametime’s features. Already we can connect from Sametime chat to external conferencing systems via the client, but in the coming months we should see the release of Sametime 11 Meetings, which will provide not only meetings but audio, video and screen sharing with no client side plugins and only a single docker container to deploy. I understand it’s already been in fairly heavy use inside HCL for a few months.

From the presentation here is the positioning of Sametime Meetings. That single docker container replaces between 6 – 9 other complex servers. They did so much more than just remove WebSphere.


The team also shared the Sametime strategy and timeline going forward, with v11 due in the next few months and then moving on to v12 and beyond.

All About That Volt (v11 launch)

We are still a few hours out from the v11 launch event for Domino and Sametime live from Tokyo ( but there is already much talk about “Volt” a low code (maybe no code) development tool.

I found this great short demo video which shows what it is better than I can explain having not touched it myself. Very smart stuff that enables rapid simple application development that can work on mobile, be extended with more complex programming if required, and easily integrated with other systems such as sharepoint or salesforce.

Looking forward to hearing all the news in only 6 hours.

Installing Sametime 10 – The Proxy Server

The Sametime Proxy Server is needed if you have a Community server you want people to login to using either a web or mobile client, this includes having Sametime awareness for other products such as Verse or Connections. Since I had already installed a Community Server without using a System Console I now wanted to add a Sametime Proxy Server with as minimal additional software as possible.

The Sametime Proxy server uses a DB2 database for iOS push notifications. If you don’t create that database the server will work in every other way but you won’t have working push notifications to iOS devices. You can create the database on any DB2 10.x or 11.x server but if you don’t have DB2 your Sametime license includes entitlement to a limited for Sametime only use license of DB2 10.5 (at least that’s what is in the download).

To start we need to install Installation Manager. Installation Manager is a package management software that will be used to install WebSphere and the Sametime Proxy Server on top of it. The Sametime download comes with version 1.6.2 but you are going to want to upgrade that to at least 1.8.6 before installing anything. Once Installation Manager is installed we need to install WebSphere 8.5.5 fixpack 14. Don’t worry about the fixpack download for now, if you have internet access during the install that can be done automatically so you will want to start by extracting each of the three WebSphere installers to a directory on your file system. It doesn’t matter which one. I extracted mine to C:\Software\WAS855. This is just the install directory so you don’t need to keep it once the install is complete.

Now we need to add a repository under Installation Manager so it can find the installer for WebSphere. The installer file is always repository.config so I added a respository (File – Preferences) and pointed to c:\software\was855\repository.config

Once the repository is added I can choose “Install” from the main Installation Manager menu and I will be presented with the option to install WebSphere 8.5.5. As you can see it has automatically checked Version and I have checked “Show all versions” so I can install Fixpack 14 directly during this one install step.

The installer finds 15 fixpacks and automatically selects the newest. Instead I uncheck that and choose which is what we want for this install
We accept all the recommended fixes that are part of
The installer warns us that there is a missing required fix so we uncheck “show recommended only” and search for the missing fix “ph01621” and select that to install along with WebSphere
Choose the shared resource directory that Installation Manager will use. This can’t be changed later without uninstalling everything so make sure4 you have room
The WebSphere install directory wil lbe where the profiles and program files will be created. All WebSphere servers will be installed under this path
This is the confirmation of what we want to install
Once the WebSphere install is complete go ahead and close Installation Manager without creating a profile (choose “None”). The Sametime Proxy Server will create its own profile as a standalone node so you don’t need to manually create one here.

Now the WebSphere install is complete we can proceed to installing the Sametime Proxy Server. In my design it’s a standalone server so has no deployment manager or System Console. The instructions to do this require us to perform a silent install which means using a response file specifying the configuration that is accessed from outside the Installation Manager GUI.

The extracted installer for the Sametime Proxy Server contains a response file we can edit for our own install. My response file was in

C:\Software\SametimeProxyServer\responseFiles and was called ip.rsp.

I took a copy of that file and made my own changes – see the bottom of this blog for my ip.rsp file but one very important consideration is that in the sample ip.rsp the default password of “wasadmin” is set. If you run the install without changing that you will end up with a login of wasadmin and a password of wasadmin.

The lines in the rsp file that set this are

<data key=’’ value=’wasadmin‘/>

<data key=’’ value=’zN39fpCc9SqIryGJM7+02A==‘/>

zN39fpCc9SqIryGJM7+02A== is the encoded value of “wasadmin”, you must enter the encoded value of the password you want to set in the response file. To generate the encoded value before adding it to the response file you use the “generateEncodedPassword” utility which can be found in your Sametime Proxy Server extracted install e.g.


From the IBM Installaton Manager install directory (C:\IBM\Installation Manager for me) I ran

C:\Software\SametimeProxyServer\GeneratedEncodedPassword\GenerateEncodedPassword.bat gabpass >pw.txt – which generates the encoded value for “gabpass” and writes it to the pw.txt text file as “rNFGfQ/sPi082+AaXFMNxA==. I write the value to a text file so I can have it recorded whilst I complete the next step.

I can then modify the value of <data key=’’ value=’rNFGfQ/sPi082+AaXFMNxA==’/>

Important note; do not try and use special characters in your WebSphere passwords especially @ and !.

Now we are ready to run the silent install from the eclipse directory where Installation Manager is installed e.g c:\IBM\Installation Manager\eclipse using the command

IBMIMc –launcher.ini silent-install.ini -input response_file -log log_path_and_filename -acceptLicense

See output of my install running below

With the install completed successfully we can sign onto the node via https://hostname:9043/ibm/console using the credentials we set in our rsp install file and see the Sametime Proxy Server in place. The community server that the Sametime Proxy connects to was specified in my response file when I did the install.

In my environment I wanted to have the Sametime Proxy Server on port 443 securely and to install my own SSL certificate. To modify the ports for the Samtime Proxy Server click on the server name and choose “ports” under “Communication” then edit the value for “wc_defaulthost_secure”.

Once this step is complete you should be able to connect to Sametime through a mobile client or through the web using the new web client on https://hostname:port/chat

Once the server is installed any changes to the configuration such as which Community server or cluster it should connect to should be changed by directly editing the stproxyconfig.xml file.

I could do that but then I hit a problem in that anyone accessing Sametime via the Proxy Server could send but not receive messages or see any they sent. My next blog “Issues With MongoDB During Sametime Install” explains what happened and how HCL helped me identify and fix it.

For the official install instructions from HCL please see this PDF

My ip.rsp file is shown below as an example. You will need to modify it for your own install.

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>

<!--The "acceptLicense" attribute has been deprecated. Use "-acceptLicense" command line option to accept license agreements.-->

<agent-input temporary='true' clean='true'  acceptLicense='false'>


<!-- When the repository location is specified as a relative path, the path is interpreted relative to the location of this response file -->

<repository location='../STProxy'/>



This installLocation attribute is directory in which you would like to install the Sametime Servers

e.g. on Windows this might be C:/Program Files/IBM/WebSphere

This directory must be empty before you begin the install unless this is an upgrade.

By convention all of the installed files will be installed into sub-directories of this path,

but this is not necessary (see further directory choices below).

Unless you specify to place other content in sub-directories the only files placed in this

directory will be some message files related to the install/uninstall utilities

The id attribute should not be altered or the installer won't work.

In the profile name the ® character is represented by ® 

This representation is safer if the file is edited with a tool which does not support Unicode properly


<profile installLocation='C:/IBM/SametimeServer' id='IBM® Sametime® Server Platform'>


The files which are installed in the directory specified by the value of the

user.installlocation relate to WAS installer code.

If the specified directory exists prior to running the installer it must be empty.

Therefore, if you are installing upon an existing copy of WebSphere,

you will probably need to change it from the default value.


<data key='user.installlocation' value='C:/IBM/SametimeServer'/>
<!-- This attribute specifies where WebSphere Application Server is already installed. -->

<data key='user.was.installlocation'value='C:/IBM/WebSphere/AppServer'/>


This location is the path we will install the offering to i.e. the files used for creating

Sametime WAS server profiles.


<data key='' value='C:/IBM/WebSphere/STPServerCell'/>


*** CHANGEME ***

The following two XML elements specify the host and port of the Sametime community server that

you wish to connect to with this Proxy server. You will need to alter it. The host name needs to be the FQDN of the CS
The default port to use is 1516, because this is the default port for Virtual Places 

server to server communication (1533 is the default for client to server communication_


<data key='' value=‘’/>

<data key='' value='1516'/>


This attribute defines the type of WAS profile(s) you wish to create.

This attribute is case-sensitive and Valid options are:  

'Cell' - (default) create a cell consisting of a Deployment manager and a managed node

'PN' - create a stand-alone primary node  federated to an existing SSC Deployment manager

'SN' - create a secondary node federated to an existing Deployment manager


<data key='' value='PN'/>

If you specified that you wish to install a WAS secondary node profile,

you must edit these attributes to match the host name and soap port of the Deployment manager you wish to have your WAS profile managed by
If this secondary node is a standalone node, then edit these attributes to match the secondary node's hostname and soap port values.


<data key='' value='DMHost'/>

<data key="" value="8603"/>

<data key="" value="DMHost"/>

Uncomment this attribute if you wish the WAS profile to use a hostname other than the default for this machine

if you do specify a hostname it should be the fully qualified domain name (e.g. "" not "servername")
<data key='' value='HOSTNAME'/>



The WAS profiles created by the installer will be protected by File based security 

for the System Console. The following two XML elements specify the username & password

that can be used to login to the WAS System Console.It is not allowed to omit these elements.

For security reasons you do not store the password in plain text. Instead you can use

the generateEncodedPassword utility contained in the kit to generated an encoded form of the password

For example 'zN39fpCc9SqIryGJM7+02A==' is equivalent to a password of 'wasadmin'
It is not possible to choose LDAP security during install, but this can be

configured after install 


<data key='' value='wasadmin'/>

<data key='' value='zN39fpCc9SqIryGJM7+02A=='/>


The default is to name the WAS cell <HOSTSHORTNAME>ProxyCell 

and to name the WAS node <HOSTSHORTNAME>ProxyNode

but you can over-ride the defaults by un-commenting the following parameters
<data key='' value='HOSTNAMEProxyCell'/>

<data key='' value='HOSTNAMEProxyNode'/>


These are the names that will be assigned to the WAS profiles created by this installer

It is safe to simply use the default values or to change them to anything you want so long as the profile names are unique


<data key='' value='STPAppProfile'/>

<data key='' value='STPDMgrProfile'/>

<data key='' value='STPSNAppProfile'/>

<data key='' value='STProxyServer'/>

<!--Port the Deployment Manager will run on. This should not be changed from the default of 8600 -->

<data key='' value='8600'/>

<!--Port the Deployment Manager will use for SOAP connections (the default is 8603) -->

<data key='' value='8603'/>


This attribute specifies whether or not you wish to install from a SSC deployment plan

It is case-sensitive and the only valid values are TRUE and FALSE
If you change this to TRUE, you will also need to specify values for,,, and

see the other sample response file for sample values for these parameters


<data key='' value='FALSE'/>

This attribute specified is we are doing an upgrade or a fresh install

It is case-sensitive and valid values are 'INSTALL' or 'UPDATE'.


<data key='' value='INSTALL'/>
<!-- version of Sametime to install, -->  

<data key='' value=''/>

This attribute specifies if the Proxy server will co-exist with a SCC server

Set this value to TRUE if SSC is installed on same machine as Proxy Server 

  It is case-sensitive and the only valid values are TRUE and FALSE


<data key='' value='FALSE'/>

On non-windows platforms this attribute should point to a temporary directory that

can be used for storage of files used by the installer. I needs to be on a disk with

greater than 1GB of free space


<data key='user.nonWin.temp' value='C:/IBM/WebSphere/STtemp'/>

This is the Language code for the language version you wish to install

e.g. de for German, zh for Simplified Chinese


<data key='' value='en'/>

    These parameters specifies database credentials and hostname. Get the encoded DB password using the generateEncodedPassword utility

available in the download package. The default port for DB2 is 50000.


<data key='' value='50000'/>    

<data key='' value='@@DBHOST@@'/>

<data key='' value='@@DBNAME@@'/>

<data key='' value='@@DBUSER@@'/>

<data key='' value='@@ENCODEDDBPASSWORD@@'/>

<install modify='false'>


The features parameter of the offering element identifies what features are to be installed.

If installing with SSC, it should be set to 'CEMain,nossc,ssc'

If installing without SSC, it should be set to 'CEMain,nossc'

The id parameter should not be altered of the installer won't work

In the profile name the ® character is represented by ® 

This representation is safer if the file is edited with a tool which does not support Unicode properly


<offering profile='IBM® Sametime® Server Platform' features='CEMain,nossc' id=''/>


This next parameter specifies the location of the temporary cache where

Installation Manager stores files during install e.g. C:/Program Files/IBM/IMShared


<preference value='C:/IBM/IMShared' name=''/>


This parameter specifies whether or not the installer should search for possible updates on the web at

Since Sametime does not maintain a fix repository on the web this should always be set to false because if there is no

connection to the Internet and it is set to true users may get error messages when it looks for the repository

(and the repository will not contain fixes anyway)


<preference value='false' name='offering.service.repositories.areUsed'/>


Installing Sametime 10 Limited Use

A slight delay on this blog, which I promised to write last week, but I have a good excuse. My original plan was to do an in-place upgrade as Sametime 10 is still 32bit-only enabling it to be upgraded on top of your existing Community Server so long as the underlying Domino install is at least 9.0.1 FP10 32bit. However the system requirements support Windows 2012 and Windows 2016 servers, but not Windows 2008 which was what the server I planned to upgrade was installed on. Yeah, it’s been a while since we had a major Sametime upgrade 🙂

Change of plan. I decided to start over first by building a standalone Community server and then adding the Proxy Server all without a System Console.

The documentation for this install is a PDF file that is linked to on this page My write-up below is based on my own install using that documentation.

Installing Domino

I built a new Windows 2016 Standard server and installed a new Domino 32 bit 9.0.1 FP10 server on it. IBM Fix Central still has FP10 accessible on it so you can still get it from there.

  • Windows 2016 is a supported server operating system for Domino 9.0.1, so I went with that as it will also support future upgrades.
  • We know that the next major Sametime version is meant to be 64bit-only, so we’re not going to be able to upgrade over 32 bit Domino without uninstalling and re-installing but at least I won’t have to rebuild the entire machine. However, for a customer I’d probably do a side-by-side upgrade so I could have a fallback to the existing Community Server.
  • I like to install Sametime in its own domain as Sametime uses LDAP for authentication and even if that LDAP is a Domino Directory you can’t point to the Directory running the Sametime server.
  • Having the Sametime Community server in its own domain means I can upgrade Domino and upgrade Sametime without touching anything else such as my mail or application domain.

My Domino server then is built as an Enterprise server (which doesn’t need to be licensed separately if you’re only using it for Sametime) in its own domain and with minimal services (remove things like Calendar, Scheduler, RNRMgr from starting up) but leave HTTP.

Installing MongoDB

MongoDB is new to the Sametime requirements and also temporary. It is needed for storing of chat history, but HCL have said they will be changing the DB platform from Mongo in v11 to something else and providing tools to move the data to the new database store at that point. You don’t need to be a MongoDB expert for this step.

First we need to download the right version of MongoDB and separately the Compass add-on.

MongoDB Installer

Compass Addon

The supported MongoDB version is 3.6.5 and fixpacks specifically. Once downloaded we run the installer, make sure you uncheck the box to install “Compass” during the MongoDB install or the install will fail.

Choose “Complete” on this screen

Un-Check this box which is checked by default or the install will fail.

Once completed we then run the Compass installer separately

Now we’re almost ready to start and configure MongoDB. When the server starts it will expect to find the data and log directories so these need to be created in advance or the start will fail. The default locations for those are c:\data\db and c:\program files\mongodb\logs\log.txt (I don’t use these in general but created them purely for the first server start).

Run the mongod.exe first from the install directory which by default is

C:\Program Files\MongoDB\Server\3.6\bin

from a command window run “mongod.exe” which will start the server instance and end up listening on port 27017. Do not shut the server window if running in the foreground at this point!

Now we want to issue commands to the server via the Mongo command line tool which we run using “mongo.exe” from the same directory.

Out of interest at this point if you type the following in a command window you should see both the server listening and command window established connections:

netstat -an |find /i “27017”

Checking The Schema

We now need to make sure the schema version for MongoDB is set correctly to support Sametime’s requirements. From the mongo command window type

use admin

my request returned “{“_id”: “featureCompatibilityVersion”, “version”: “3.6”}” so I used the command below to set it correctly then restarted the Mongodb server.

db.system.version.insert({ “_id” : “authSchema”, “currentVersion” : 3 })

The documentation now wants us to add MongoDB as a service using the following instructions however I had problems with it as although it installed as a service it then refused to start returning a 1053 error. After a couple of hours trying to fix that which seems to be Windows related I went another way to get a working service.

This is what the documentation said to use (sc is found in c:\windows\system32 if your path can’t find it)
sc.exe create MongoDB binPath=”\”C:\Program Files\MongoDB\Server\3.6\bin\mongod.exe\” –service — config=\”C:\Program Files\MongoDb\Server\3.6\mongod.cfg”” DisplayName= “MongoDB” start= “auto”

I ended up removing that service since it wouldn’t start (sc delete MongoDB) and adding it using a different syntax from the Mongo bin directory itself

mongod –directoryperdb -dbpath C:\data\mongodb\ –logpath C:\data\mongodb\log\mongo.log –logappend –service –install

That installed the service which started with no problems, including writing to the log file in the new directory I configured on the command line (again the directories have to exist first).

So now Mongodb is installed and running, let us move onto configuration.

Configuring MongoDB

Launch the Mongo Compass Community from your Windows start menu and connect to your locally-running server.

I don’t need to change any of these settings – just press “Connect”
Once connected I am shown a list of existing databases. These are all system databases so don’t delete any of them!

Now we need to create a new database for chatlogging and collections within that new database. Click the “Create Database” button and complete the dialog as shown below. Keep the naming and capitalisation identical to what is shown here, Database Name “chatlogging”, Collection Name “SESSIONS” . If you don’t you will need to modify the sametime.ini later.

Once the database is created we can click on it for further configuration

The documentation wants us to create an additional Collection called “EVENTS”, so we click on “Create Collection” and do that.

Having created the new chatlogging db we need to set up a Mongo user account and give that admin access. We do all this from the Mongodb console again which is accessed by running mongo.exe.

The documentation specifies using the user name “sametimeUser” and the password “sametime”. If you use a values you will need to edit the MongoDB settings in Sametime.ini once you complete the Sametime configuration steps.

The command below not only creates the user but also gives that new user admin rights to the chatlogging database.

use admin

db.createUser({user:”sametimeUser”,pwd: “sametime”,roles:[{role:”readWrite”, db:”chatlogging”},{role: “userAdminAnyDatabase”, db: “admin”}]})

Installing Sametime Standalone

With Domino shut down we can now install the Sametime Community Server. We don’t need a System Console in place before doing this.

Configuring Chat Logging

There are three components to configuring chat logging on the Sametime server:

  1. Enable Chat Logging through stconfig.nsf so the server knows to support it.
  2. Configure the policy files to enable chat logging.
  3. Point the Sametime chat logging to the MongoDB.

Open STConfig.nsf on the server and find the communityservices document then edit that and change the Chat Logging parameter to “relax”

Now we need to modify the XML files that control the policies. We can find those in the Domino program directory and can open them with a text editor.

  • In policies.server.xml set the “current-value” of to “1” instead of “0”
  • In ‘OfflineMessages.xml’ set the ‘current-value’ of to “1” instead of “0”
  • In ‘policies.users.xml’ file set the ‘current-value’ of im.enableOfflineMessages to “1”. There will be multiple instances of that value, one for the default and one for the anonymous policies that are available on a standard install.

I will be talking more about manually setting and creating policies in a later blog. The documentation provides a reference URL to detailed policy settings but that URL now returns a 404 so I’m checking with HCL for an updated link.

broken link: _im_ids.html

In addition, whilst you have policies.users.xml open you can enable the persistent chat feature by setting im.persistentChatEnabled to “1”.

Our last step in this configuration is making sure Sametime knows how to reach MongoDB and your new chatlogging database. If you used the default settings in the documentation and as I’ve documented here and MongoDB is installed locally to the Sametime server then you should not need to change any values, but for reference, and in case you do, the default settings in Sametime.ini are as follows:



Now give everything a restart and confirm that it all works!

In my next blog I’ll be looking at installing the Sametime Proxy Server again without using the System Console so that I can get access to the new web client and the mobile cilents which are part of the Limited Use entitlement.

Sametime v10 – Technology Changes Galore

Sametime v10 Limited Use shipped last week and later on this week I’ll be posting a step by step guide to my install but for now I wanted to talk about the technology changes that it brings. This release focuses only on the Community server elements, the other components such as Meetings will be part of the v11 version which is due to be released along with Domino v11 towards the end of 2019.

My thanks to Mat Newman who posted this updated roadmap on his blog where he also shares more detail about the licensing

20190601 Sametime Roadmap - Current

“Entitlement” is part of your Notes licensing and enables you to use the chat features of Sametime inside the Notes client, the browser mail cilent , a web client and the standalone mobile client.

The largest changes for the clients in v10 are the support for persistent chat (and chat history) across multiple devices, an improved conversation UI, a new lightweight web client, and the removal of the System Console as a requirement for the Community server install.  Those are all great changes that justify an upgrade to your existing Community servers by themselves.

Starting with the biggest technology change, the System Console (which itself required WebSphere and DB2) is now optional and it is possible to install and manage a Community server entirely on Domino. However if you want to use either the browser client or mobile client you will need to still install the Sametime Proxy server which does still require WebSphere and DB2.

To maintain the persistent chat across devices, a server-side storage solution is required and in this release it is MongoDB.  HCL have committed to replacing that in v11 and having a data migration solution out of Mongo so it’s a temporary solution.

You may have heard that Sametime 10 will be 64 bit only on Domino but in fact this first version still requires Domino 32bit and at least 9.0.1 FP10 version.  Domino 10 is 64bit only so right now Sametime 10 cannot be installed on Domino 10.  That does however make it suitable for an in-place upgrade to your existing servers which will already be on 32bit Domino.  This is still very early in the release and the technical requirements are not yet published but will eventually be here .

Last week HCL hosted a webcast where they introduced Sametime v10 and answered questions, I’d recommend looking at the Q&A and watching the webcast here

I have been documenting my own install this weekend – I opted for an in-place upgrade as I assume that’s what the majority of people will be doing on this release, and will be publishing that in the next couple of days.

Java Problems Installing Sametime Community Server

Recently I was asked to install Sametime Community server in a new site.  I’ll be honest, I haven’t done a greenfield site install of Sametime in nearly a year, my work has primarily been upgrading (adding new elements) and maintenance.

As you probably know you can’t just install the Community Server onto Domino,  much of the admin and management features are now controlled solely inside the Sametime System Console running on WebSphere.  When installing WebSphere I installed version 8.5.5 as a base then applied the latest fixpack 12. (now version 13).  The Sametime elements only work with Java SE6 which used to be fine, during the WebSphere install I’d explicitly override its wish to install Java SE8 with a radio button to choose Java SE6, however that option disappeared on fixpack 11 and as of April 2018 Java SE6 is no longer supported even though Sametime still requires it and will continue to do so I suspect well into next year since the next release of a Community server is scheduled for H1 2019 and other elements for H2 2019.

Everything installed fine but then the servers with the applications couldn’t be stopped properly.  I had to uninstall WebSphere and the SSC entirely, then install base 8.5.5 with fixpack 8 (which I had to hand although other early fixpacks may also have worked) that allowed me to choose Java SE6 then install the SSC.  Once it was installed and I tested starting and stopping server elements I went ahead and upgraded the fixpack to 12.  WebSphere will warn you but continue to honour the Java version you originally chose , in this case Java SE 6, and not force an upgrade.

So. Websphere 8.5.5 with FP8 , then FP11.. 12.. 13 whatever you want.  The system requirements still say these are all supported so the loss of the option to choose Java SE 6 during fixpack install is what we are trying to fix.

Ideas, Demos & Your Last Day To Sign Up for Beta 2

So much interesting activity going on around the IBM/HCL products so in case you missed them I thought I could summarise for you.  All are worthy of your time if you care about the future of Domino, Traveler, Verse or Sametime


Firstly – no time to lose – the registration for Beta 2 of Domino , Notes and Traveler closes TODAY at 12pm EST/5pm GMT.  If you want access to that Beta due this month hopefully then go and sign up here now  Don’t leave it then be disappointed when you don’t get access.


If you have ideas for what you want in Domino, Notes, Traveler, Sametime or anything else – there is a new site (requiring no login) where you can add your ideas and vote on other people’s.  It’s been running for a few weeks and there are some great ideas there already to vote for so it’s a good place to browse during your next coffee break.  Remember the rule – if you don’t ask you don’t get


HCL are publishing a series of videos showing how features that are in v10 will behave.  Here are three interesting features announced so far.

Definitely different – a few days looking into the future with HCL (and IBM)

If this blog is tl:dr then here’s your takeaway

I can’t thank everyone at HCL enough for throwing open the doors and leaving them open. Together we will continue to innovate great things for customers

Last week Tim and I were invited to the 1st CWP Factory tour held by HCL at their offices in Chelmsford.  “CWP” stands for “Collaboration Workflow Platform” and includes not only the products HCL took over from IBM late last year such as Domino, Traveler, Verse on Premises and Sametime but also new products that HCL are developing as extensions of those.  These (that I can talk a little bit about) such as HCL Nomad (Notes for iPad) and HCL Places (a new client runnvetaing against Domino 10 and providing integrated collaborative services such as chat, AV , web and Notes applications) will be leapfrogging Domino far over its competitors.

I want to start by thanking HCL for inviting us inside to see their process. We met and made our voices heard with more than 30 developers and executives, all of who wanted to know “do you like this?”  “what are we missing?”.  I came away from the two days with a to-do list of my own at the request of various people to send in more details of problems or requirements I had mentioned when there.  John Paganetti, who is also a customer advocate at HCL, hosted the “ask the developers” impromptu session (we had so many questions so they threw one into the agenda on day 2).  We were told to get to know and reach out directly to the teams with our feedback and questions.  If you don’t have a route to provide feedback and want one then please reach out.

Back in February I attended a Domino Jam hosted by Andrew Manby (@andrewmanby) from IBM in London.  These were held all over the world and attendees were pushed to brainstorm around features that were missing or needed.  That feedback was used to create priorities for v10 and many of the features requested at my session and others have appeared in the current beta and are committed to a v10 release.  At the end of the 2nd day of the factory tour we again had a Domino Jam hosted by Andrew Manby but this time for Domino 11 features – wheeeeeeee!   With the Jams and the Destination Domino blog as well as the #domino2025 hashtag activity, IBM are really stepping up to the products in a way they haven’t in several years.  I want to recognise the hard work being done by Andrew, by Uffe Sorensen, and by Mat Newman amongst others, to make this IBM/HCL relationship work.

So what was the factory tour? It was a 2 day conference held at HCL’s (still being built) offices. I am pleased to say it was put together very informally, we were split into groups of about 10 (hi Daniel, Francie, Julian, Richard, Paul, Nathan, Devin, Fabrice!) and one by one the development teams came and took our feedback on the work they are doing.  We worked with the Verse (on premises) team, the TCO team (looking at the Domino and Sametime servers), the Notes client team, the Nomad team and the Application Development team.  It was an intense day in a good way with so much information being shared with us and questions being asked of us.  It was also good to be told that the majority of what we saw and discussed could be shared publicly.

A few highlights (out of many) from the two days that were new to me:

  • The new database repair and folder sync features in Domino 10 (shame on me for not remembering what they are called). The database repair feature will detect when a database is corrupted and replace it whilst the server is running with a new instance from a working cluster mate (another good reason to cluster).  The folder sync feature will keep any  Domino database files or NLOs in any listed folders in sync.  This stuff is so cool and exactly what Domino clustering needed so we asked for them to extend the sync feature to include any files in the HTML directory such as HTML CSS and CGI scripts and they are considering that (v10 is a tight delivery timeline right now so no guarantees of anything).
  • Some very candid discussions (I think repeated multiple times by everyone there) about getting rid of WebSphere for Sametime in the future and how to better provide Sametime services purely under Domino.
  • HCL Places looking much evolved even in the few weeks since it was first shown at Engage – this is going to be a game changer client when it comes out.
  • The Domino General Query Facility (DGQF) available in Domino 10 is the biggest investment in Notes/Domino code in 10 years. A query language accessible outside Domino that doesn’t require any  knowledge of Domino design by a developer.  Using DGQF you can rapidly query collections of documents represented by any criteria not necessarily views or forms.  Using DGQF a regular web developer would be able to build a Node application, for instance, using back-end Domino data without ever having to learn the structure of the Domino database or touch Domino Designer.  Here’s a sneaky picture I took of the positioning for DGQF.John Curtis who is the lead designer behind DGQF has been very responsive on twitter to questions about how it will work (@john_d_curtis)IMG_0313
  • A lot of stuff Nomad and Node related which is still NDA but you’ll hear more about them at Collabsphere in Ann Arbor – HCL will be out in force as will IBM speaking, showing and listening so if you can you need to get yourself there.   Turn out and turn up – there’s still time to get your voice heard.